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skyrimconfessionss:

Ever since I have watched Game of Thrones, I haven’t been able to seriously play Skyrim until now. There were too many similarities between the two. I searched if anyone else had noticed this and it turns out Bethesda was supposed to make a Game of Thrones game.”

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*headdesk*

Game of Thrones and Skyrim are nothing alike you dumbass. There are next to no similarities.

While I agree that they are very different in tone and narrative, and that there are many differences between the respective worlds in lore and culture, they do both resemble the standard fantasy setting(medieval European culture, poc mostly an “Other”, political struggle, war, Dragons, magic, looming threat that draws ever near, etc.) Skyrim off course more so than Game of Thrones and asoiaf due to the absence of a clear good vs. evil battle in the latter, where all noble heroes survive or die in a dramatic and meaningful way.

"nothing alike" is an overstatement, one has to consider the fact that asoiaf preceded Skyrim in the fantasy genre and it therefore would definitely have had influence on the fantasy genre. Skyrim is a sum of many influences of the fantasy genre, of which asoiaf is a part. One should not look at them as separate from one another or from other fantasy narrative as they are part of an web of intertextuality and influence. And there are a few remarkable details that GOT and Skyrim have in common.

a northern lord has proclaimed himself king and fights for independence of his land, against the ruler who prefers to keep the land united, even though his position is not the strongest either.

all the major cities have sigils, one of them is a stag, there is a city with the name Winter at the front which has been destroyed

a western region is called the rift and the westernmost city is controlled by one powerful family, which has control over the large source of precious metal that can be mined there

Dragons have returned just recently, anatomically they have two feet and wings, and are difficult to control unless you posses the correct knowledge.

and lets not forget that both worlds have a rich and diverse lore and history. These examples might not prove that they are very alike, but they do imply there are certain themes in fantasy that are often revisited, and that the developers at bethesda, when designing Skyrim just as a province in earlier es games and as a main playing field in the fifth one, would have at least known of the world of asoiaf. Either conscious or subconscious of their presence in asoiaf, they may have incorporated some of these elements in their game.

Furthermore The tv-series and Skyrim game came out the same year and have been extremely popular since. They seem to be succesful mainstream products of the popularity of the standard fantasy genre, which in earlier decades(and even now by some) was largely looked down on as nerdy or childish.

In my opinion, they might seem as nearly identical products of the fantasy genre to one who cannot closely examine their vast differences . However I also believe saying they are completely different is an exaggeration. We might be on the internet, the place for such simplistic exaggeration, but in your previous posts you always backed up your arguments with examples and sources and the like. I am interested in why you think they are so radically different. 

I know this is mostly based on speculation on my part, and I don’t really have any sources to back up my argument. this is just my opinion, and subject to change with the application of further knowledge and arguments.

I am interested in why you think they are so radically different. 

*cracks neck and fingers*

Welp…

Let me count the ways.

- Skyrim is a video game. Game of Thrones is a TV series inspired by a book series.

- GoT focuses on specific characters and character development in a book and TV series. TES V: Skyrim is an open world sandbox RPG video game.

And, as you yourself mentioned…

- different tone

- different narrative

- both are set in two entirely different worlds

- both have completely different and unrelated lore

- both have entirely different races (Tamriel has ten; four men, four mer, two beast)

- both have entirely different cultures

- both have entirely different histories

- GoT/ASOIAF focuses on the very real actions of men and women, and the consequences this has for the world and other mortals. Skyrim and the TES series features very real Gods, Goddesses, beasts and spirits that are very much always there, always have been, and very much in your face. In GoT it’s far more subtle.

Basically, magic and magical creatures generally take a back seat and get an odd mention here and there in GoT/ASOIAF to remind you it’s a fantasy. The TES series shoves it in your face from the moment you start playing, and the Gods are always interfering. 

tl;dr: GoT is more like Arthurian Legend, whereas TES is like the bastard child of Greek and Hindu Mythology.

- GoT/ASOIAF is the brainchild of a single man. The TES series has been a collaborative and evolving series since day one.

- GoT/ASOIAF is very much rooted in the mortal world it’s created. The TES series holds a massive meta lore that involves the ability to become a God and, beyond that, a new creator of a new world so long as one scratches the surface.

I got a few more, but it’s 2:30 in the morning and I’m really tired.

"nothing alike" is an overstatement, one has to consider the fact that asoiaf preceded Skyrim in the fantasy genre and it therefore would definitely have had influence on the fantasy genre. Skyrim is a sum of many influences of the fantasy genre, of which asoiaf is a part. One should not look at them as separate from one another or from other fantasy narrative as they are part of an web of intertextuality and influence. And there are a few remarkable details that GOT and Skyrim have in common.

Did you miss the part where right after that I said “There are next to no similarities”? LOTR, Narnia, DnD, and Warcraft along with numerous others also preceded Skyrim. They are all “similar” in that they’re fantasy genres and feature things like magical swords, talking beasts, dragons, other races, etc. However, no one in their right mind would try to argue that because of those superficial genre similarities, Warcraft is similar to TES, or that TES is similar to LOTR, etc., so please don’t try and do the same for GoT/ASOIAF and TES.

a northern lord has proclaimed himself king and fights for independence of his land, against the ruler who prefers to keep the land united, even though his position is not the strongest either.

all the major cities have sigils, one of them is a stag, there is a city with the name Winter at the front which has been destroyed

a western region is called the rift and the westernmost city is controlled by one powerful family, which has control over the large source of precious metal that can be mined there

Dragons have returned just recently, anatomically they have two feet and wings, and are difficult to control unless you posses the correct knowledge.

The above is all superficial and arguably inconsequential.

a northern lord has proclaimed himself king and fights for independence of his land, against the ruler who prefers to keep the land united, even though his position is not the strongest either.

Congratulations, you just described almost perfectly the Wars of Scottish Independence, and Robert the Bruce on top of it. You now know where most fantasy writers get their inspiration from. Shall we say now that Skyrim bears a striking resemblance to real-life Scotland because of what they have in common? Or would that be incredibly superficial?

all the major cities have sigils, one of them is a stag, there is a city with the name Winter at the front which has been destroyed.

Again, really superficial, since every kingdom, county, province, etc. outside of America has a sigil/banner of some kind. Hell, look at the coat of arms of my home province:

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What’s that? It even has “house words”? Oh my god, I live in the land of Baratheons!

There’s also two towns in Newfoundland that have the name Winter at the front. Are you going to argue then that they’re similar/influence/are influenced by Winterfell or Winterhold? Just because a place has “winter” in its name doesn’t make it similar. Winterhold is nothing like Winterfell which is nothing like Winterton which is nothing like Winterland.

a western region is called the rift and the westernmost city is controlled by one powerful family, which has control over the large source of precious metal that can be mined there

To my knowledge, there is no place in Westeros called “The Rift”, and the The Rift in Skyrim is in the east. It’s also not this so called “Rift” in Westeros because they are two different worlds. Also, fun fact, a rift is a type of valley. In fact, my hometown sits in one.

My hometown is also a city located in the southeast of the country, sits in a rift valley (Ottawa Valley), is full of corruption (politicians), and criminals are everywhere (again, politicians). Extra bonus, we’re near the border to our Imperial overlords to the south (America). Does this mean my city served as the inspiration for Skyrim’s Riften? I doubt it.

Dragons have returned just recently, anatomically they have two feet and wings, and are difficult to control unless you posses the correct knowledge.

Again, superficial similarities. Dany’s dragons hatch from eggs and take time to grow, there are only three of them, she is their “mother”, and as they’ve aged they’re becoming harder to control.

Skyrim’s dragons on the other hand are being resurrected by the “Alpha Dragon” Alduin who is the first-born son of the Dragon God of Time. Alduin was cast forward in time and is resurrecting hundreds of dragons from ancient burial mounds, full grown. Skyrim’s dragons also speak their own language as well as the common tongue of Tamriel, and can use a variety of shouts and not just breath fire. They can have frost breath, they can summon storms, and some can even raise the dead. Oh, and they can have their souls absorbed by “dragonborns”. Also, on top of all that, all the dragons look different and nothing alike.

and lets not forget that both worlds have a rich and diverse lore and history. These examples might not prove that they are very alike, but they do imply there are certain themes in fantasy that are often revisited, and that the developers at bethesda, when designing Skyrim just as a province in earlier es games and as a main playing field in the fifth one, would have at least known of the world of asoiaf. Either conscious or subconscious of their presence in asoiaf, they may have incorporated some of these elements in their game.

Well yeah, all genres share certain themes. Asimov’s I, Robot and the Terminator series feature renegade AI’s that use robots to try and subjugate mankind. That doesn’t mean they’re alike. Hell, an even better example is anime, which features all different kinds with different kinds of tropes but does that mean one harem anime or manga is the same as another? Are Naruto and Bleach the same?

In TES IV: Oblivion, I felt that the Imperial City smacked of Minas Tirith and the Ayleid ruins reminded me way too much of Moria, but that doesn’t mean Cyrodiil and Middle-Earth are similar.

Also, from the looks of it (and I could be wrong), it seems like you’re trying to equate correlations with causation, which would be wrong.

Furthermore The tv-series and Skyrim game came out the same year and have been extremely popular since. They seem to be succesful mainstream products of the popularity of the standard fantasy genre, which in earlier decades(and even now by some) was largely looked down on as nerdy or childish.

Correlation does not equal causation. There was a tonne of stuff that came out in 2011. That Skyrim and GoT came out the same year is a coincidence. GoT was first conceptualized as a TV series in 2006, right after Bethesda finished Oblivion and began work on Fallout 3. Also, “standard fantasy” was more TES IV. Skyrim was actually a departure from more standard and classic European fantasy lore.

In my opinion, they might seem as nearly identical products of the fantasy genre to one who cannot closely examine their vast differences . However I also believe saying they are completely different is an exaggeration. We might be on the internet, the place for such simplistic exaggeration, but in your previous posts you always backed up your arguments with examples and sources and the like. I am interested in why you think they are so radically different. 

Well, now you’ve “encouraged” me to make this into what may just be the longest post I’ve ever made on tumblr. Kudos.

I know this is mostly based on speculation on my part, and I don’t really have any sources to back up my argument. this is just my opinion, and subject to change with the application of further knowledge and arguments.

Fair enough. As I mentioned in my original and short dismissal, there are next to no similarities between the two worlds and to elaborate, said similarities are superficial.

(tagging you in the post so it doesn’t get lost.)

the-dreamer-is-awake 

this post is really long but I wanted to show you guys how fucking decimated this person just became.

toshio the starman is a seriously rad dude and honestly I’m baffled how an intelligent person is like a regular follower of mine.

But holy shit this is the mic drop posts of all mic drop posts!

ferelden:

do you ever hear the intro theme to a video game and you get really emotional and your heart feels really weak like it’s coming back home and it’s basically like that whole world you love so much summed up into one epic song and you just want to fucking cry a lot because this is the video game for you and nothing else ever can even compare to the feeling you get when you hear that one fucking bit of music

#oblivion

Travis knows what’s up.

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Sithis, be good to your children.

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Poor Cicero…

Took me forever but I finally drew the fucker.

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CreepyCUTE ♥

My Dunmer Brotherhood girlie, Alesha. Some of you might remember her uwu <333

Bonus round: She’s into women, girls, ladies and people of the female persuasion.

Have at her B)

bulletsketchbook:

You're afraid of who you are (you're ashamed of where you're from)
Crying 'cause your father's gone (fire from the tongues of liars) Dreaming 'til you hit the truth (we can't die because we're young)
You'll find that you've nothing to lose (fire from the tongues of liars)
You'll find that you've nothing to prove.

Sweet, sweet Listener. Not mine, a friend’s character, enjoy!

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Sweet mother, sweet mother,
send your child unto me…

Look at this Disney villain loser.

Look at this asshole.

Look at this asshole.

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